User talk:Cogniac - Revision history

JC the Builder: /* Stratics ripping your contributions */ new section

2016-10-09T16:02:33Z

‎Stratics ripping your contributions: new section

JC the Builder: /* Freeshard advertising has sneaked in */

2013-12-06T01:21:38Z

‎Freeshard advertising has sneaked in

EnteringBritannia: /* Freeshard advertising has sneaked in */ new section

2013-12-01T17:07:24Z

‎Freeshard advertising has sneaked in: new section

JC the Builder: /* House of Commons pages */

2010-06-04T19:26:43Z

‎House of Commons pages

Cogniac: /* House of Commons pages */

2010-06-04T19:21:33Z

‎House of Commons pages

Tancred RedStar: Remval of HoC Chats?

2010-06-04T19:13:26Z

Remval of HoC Chats?

Cogniac: /* Editing Craftable Template Pages */

2010-05-24T18:13:58Z

‎Editing Craftable Template Pages

Nimuaq at 11:58, 23 May 2010

2010-05-23T11:58:28Z

Nimuaq: /* Editing Craftable Template Pages */ new section

2010-05-23T11:57:32Z

‎Editing Craftable Template Pages: new section

Cogniac: /* Explorers of the Stygian Abyss Event */

2010-04-07T21:21:56Z

‎Explorers of the Stygian Abyss Event

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	: Thanks for pointing it out. You can also delete any inappropriate content yourself with a note in the comment about it. - [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 17:21, 5 December 2013 (PST)		: Thanks for pointing it out. You can also delete any inappropriate content yourself with a note in the comment about it. - [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 17:21, 5 December 2013 (PST)
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		+	== Stratics ripping your contributions ==
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		+	Just wanted to alert you to the [http://forum.uoguide.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1501 situation with the new Stratics Wiki]. - [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] ([[User talk:JC the Builder\|talk]]) 09:02, 9 October 2016 (PDT)

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	I hope you are the right person to contact - some freeshard advertising has sneaked in recently with lots of edits (maybe automatically created?)		I hope you are the right person to contact - some freeshard advertising has sneaked in recently with lots of edits (maybe automatically created?)
	User:GeniusKiKi		User:GeniusKiKi
		+	: Thanks for pointing it out. You can also delete any inappropriate content yourself with a note in the comment about it. - [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 17:21, 5 December 2013 (PST)

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	: Well, when I originally made those pages, I was going to grab every UOHoC, but JC was wary of the idea at the time. And now that Stratics has been bought by TGN and has gone utterly insane in multiple categories, I have also grown wary. Now that Stratics has finally revealed itself as a fully for-profit enterprise, there's no telling who they'll sue for "stealing content."{{Line Break}}In the long run, I'm thinking of Wiki-coding them all up and then storing them all offline in multiple places, ready to be put up if Stratics ever collapses entirely.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 19:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)		: Well, when I originally made those pages, I was going to grab every UOHoC, but JC was wary of the idea at the time. And now that Stratics has been bought by TGN and has gone utterly insane in multiple categories, I have also grown wary. Now that Stratics has finally revealed itself as a fully for-profit enterprise, there's no telling who they'll sue for "stealing content."{{Line Break}}In the long run, I'm thinking of Wiki-coding them all up and then storing them all offline in multiple places, ready to be put up if Stratics ever collapses entirely.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 19:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
	: UOHOC are conducted by Stratics and it is their right to earn the traffic from their exclusive content. I wouldn't like to have UOGuide content ripped and put on their or any other site. If you wish to create a personal archive in case they are lost or Stratics goes down, then they could be added here. - [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 19:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)		: UOHOC are conducted by Stratics and it is their right to earn the traffic from their exclusive content. I wouldn't like to have UOGuide content ripped and put on their or any other site. If you wish to create a personal archive in case they are lost or Stratics goes down, then they could be added here. - [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 19:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Freeshard advertising has sneaked in ==
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		+	I hope you are the right person to contact - some freeshard advertising has sneaked in recently with lots of edits (maybe automatically created?)
		+	User:GeniusKiKi

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	I noticed the House of Commons Chat pages were removed. I'm a little leery of relying on third-party hosting, in this case Stratics, for perpetuating the content(and esp Stratics given how many crashes/wipes its had over the years). I'm much more a fan of having the text here and a link to the original post/content. These are, more or less, official pronouncements from the dev team and these comments and statements are importat to UO's history and future. My only reservation would be if the material was considered exclusive/copyrighted by the third party.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Tancred RedStar\|Tancred RedStar]] 19:13, 4 June 2010 (UTC)		I noticed the House of Commons Chat pages were removed. I'm a little leery of relying on third-party hosting, in this case Stratics, for perpetuating the content(and esp Stratics given how many crashes/wipes its had over the years). I'm much more a fan of having the text here and a link to the original post/content. These are, more or less, official pronouncements from the dev team and these comments and statements are importat to UO's history and future. My only reservation would be if the material was considered exclusive/copyrighted by the third party.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Tancred RedStar\|Tancred RedStar]] 19:13, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
	: Well, when I originally made those pages, I was going to grab every UOHoC, but JC was wary of the idea at the time. And now that Stratics has been bought by TGN and has gone utterly insane in multiple categories, I have also grown wary. Now that Stratics has finally revealed itself as a fully for-profit enterprise, there's no telling who they'll sue for "stealing content."{{Line Break}}In the long run, I'm thinking of Wiki-coding them all up and then storing them all offline in multiple places, ready to be put up if Stratics ever collapses entirely.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 19:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)		: Well, when I originally made those pages, I was going to grab every UOHoC, but JC was wary of the idea at the time. And now that Stratics has been bought by TGN and has gone utterly insane in multiple categories, I have also grown wary. Now that Stratics has finally revealed itself as a fully for-profit enterprise, there's no telling who they'll sue for "stealing content."{{Line Break}}In the long run, I'm thinking of Wiki-coding them all up and then storing them all offline in multiple places, ready to be put up if Stratics ever collapses entirely.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 19:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
		+	: UOHOC are conducted by Stratics and it is their right to earn the traffic from their exclusive content. I wouldn't like to have UOGuide content ripped and put on their or any other site. If you wish to create a personal archive in case they are lost or Stratics goes down, then they could be added here. - [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 19:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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	==House of Commons pages==		==House of Commons pages==
−	I noticed the House of Commons Chat pages were removed. I'm a little leery of relying on third-party hosting, in this case Stratics, for perpetuating the content(and esp Stratics given how many crashes/wipes its had over the years). I'm much more a fan of having the text here and a link to the original post/content. These are, more or less, official pronouncements from the dev team and these comments and statements are importat to UO's history and future. My only reservation would be if the material was considered exclusive/copyrighted by the third party. --[[User:Tancred RedStar\|Tancred RedStar]] 19:13, 4 June 2010 (UTC)	+	I noticed the House of Commons Chat pages were removed. I'm a little leery of relying on third-party hosting, in this case Stratics, for perpetuating the content(and esp Stratics given how many crashes/wipes its had over the years). I'm much more a fan of having the text here and a link to the original post/content. These are, more or less, official pronouncements from the dev team and these comments and statements are importat to UO's history and future. My only reservation would be if the material was considered exclusive/copyrighted by the third party.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Tancred RedStar\|Tancred RedStar]] 19:13, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
		+	: Well, when I originally made those pages, I was going to grab every UOHoC, but JC was wary of the idea at the time. And now that Stratics has been bought by TGN and has gone utterly insane in multiple categories, I have also grown wary. Now that Stratics has finally revealed itself as a fully for-profit enterprise, there's no telling who they'll sue for "stealing content."{{Line Break}}In the long run, I'm thinking of Wiki-coding them all up and then storing them all offline in multiple places, ready to be put up if Stratics ever collapses entirely.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 19:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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	Recently, [[User:Dlwiii]] started to add skill requirements on the craftable tables of the pages: [[Template:Carpentry Craftables]], [[Template:Cooking Craftables]], [[Template:Masonry Craftables]], [[Template:Tailoring Craftables]] and [[Template:Tinkering Craftables]]. I'm thinking of editing the tables so that the skill requirements can be aligned to the right of the craftable name. Since the format of the tables on these pages are perfect in terms of readability (which [[User:Bomb Bloke]] created), I dont want to change it to uoguidetable or wikitable and I want to preserve the current format. But the code of the current format is very complicated to add new items or skill requirements especially for users who are not familiar with html or any other web editing language. Since most users know how to edit contents of the tables in uoguidetable style, I'm thinking of adding another class, say uoguidecraftabletable in Common.css to change the code of these pages to a more compact one without touching the current format of the tables (borders, colors etc.). I do know how to do it but wanted take your opinion on this. [[User:Nimuaq\|Nimuaq]] 11:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)		Recently, [[User:Dlwiii]] started to add skill requirements on the craftable tables of the pages: [[Template:Carpentry Craftables]], [[Template:Cooking Craftables]], [[Template:Masonry Craftables]], [[Template:Tailoring Craftables]] and [[Template:Tinkering Craftables]]. I'm thinking of editing the tables so that the skill requirements can be aligned to the right of the craftable name. Since the format of the tables on these pages are perfect in terms of readability (which [[User:Bomb Bloke]] created), I dont want to change it to uoguidetable or wikitable and I want to preserve the current format. But the code of the current format is very complicated to add new items or skill requirements especially for users who are not familiar with html or any other web editing language. Since most users know how to edit contents of the tables in uoguidetable style, I'm thinking of adding another class, say uoguidecraftabletable in Common.css to change the code of these pages to a more compact one without touching the current format of the tables (borders, colors etc.). I do know how to do it but wanted take your opinion on this. [[User:Nimuaq\|Nimuaq]] 11:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
	: To be honest, I've been thinking about the craftable templates for some time. I cordoned them off to be worked on after I did all of those navbox templates, but I have been putting it off.{{Line Break}}The problem with these templates is that every single one of them is only used in two places; their associated craft skill page, and [[Craftables]]. In other words, they shouldn't even really ''be'' templates at all. I was thinking of redoing [[Craftables]] to be more like, say, [[Five on Friday]]: general description at the top of the page followed by a properly compartmentalized list consisting purely of links. There would be a "See: ''Insert Craft Skill Page Here''" at the top of each main section. We could then re-implement all of these templates as stand-alone tables on each craft skill page in the same style as [[Template:Inscription Craftables]] (multiple columns of quick reference info).{{Line Break}}The idea here is that if a user wants to see information like "Minimum Skill" or "Components," they should be going to either a.) the specific craftable item's page or b.) the associated craft skill for quick reference. [[Craftables]] itself should just have a standard list of links that points at the information you need instead of unnecessarily duplicating that information in yet another place.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 18:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)		: To be honest, I've been thinking about the craftable templates for some time. I cordoned them off to be worked on after I did all of those navbox templates, but I have been putting it off.{{Line Break}}The problem with these templates is that every single one of them is only used in two places; their associated craft skill page, and [[Craftables]]. In other words, they shouldn't even really ''be'' templates at all. I was thinking of redoing [[Craftables]] to be more like, say, [[Five on Friday]]: general description at the top of the page followed by a properly compartmentalized list consisting purely of links. There would be a "See: ''Insert Craft Skill Page Here''" at the top of each main section. We could then re-implement all of these templates as stand-alone tables on each craft skill page in the same style as [[Template:Inscription Craftables]] (multiple columns of quick reference info).{{Line Break}}The idea here is that if a user wants to see information like "Minimum Skill" or "Components," they should be going to either a.) the specific craftable item's page or b.) the associated craft skill for quick reference. [[Craftables]] itself should just have a standard list of links that points at the information you need instead of unnecessarily duplicating that information in yet another place.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 18:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
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		+	==House of Commons pages==
		+	I noticed the House of Commons Chat pages were removed. I'm a little leery of relying on third-party hosting, in this case Stratics, for perpetuating the content(and esp Stratics given how many crashes/wipes its had over the years). I'm much more a fan of having the text here and a link to the original post/content. These are, more or less, official pronouncements from the dev team and these comments and statements are importat to UO's history and future. My only reservation would be if the material was considered exclusive/copyrighted by the third party. --[[User:Tancred RedStar\|Tancred RedStar]] 19:13, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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	Recently, [[User:Dlwiii]] started to add skill requirements on the craftable tables of the pages: [[Template:Carpentry Craftables]], [[Template:Cooking Craftables]], [[Template:Masonry Craftables]], [[Template:Tailoring Craftables]] and [[Template:Tinkering Craftables]]. I'm thinking of editing the tables so that the skill requirements can be aligned to the right of the craftable name. Since the format of the tables on these pages are perfect in terms of readability (which [[User:Bomb Bloke]] created), I dont want to change it to uoguidetable or wikitable and I want to preserve the current format. But the code of the current format is very complicated to add new items or skill requirements especially for users who are not familiar with html or any other web editing language. Since most users know how to edit contents of the tables in uoguidetable style, I'm thinking of adding another class, say uoguidecraftabletable in Common.css to change the code of these pages to a more compact one without touching the current format of the tables (borders, colors etc.). I do know how to do it but wanted take your opinion on this. [[User:Nimuaq\|Nimuaq]] 11:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)		Recently, [[User:Dlwiii]] started to add skill requirements on the craftable tables of the pages: [[Template:Carpentry Craftables]], [[Template:Cooking Craftables]], [[Template:Masonry Craftables]], [[Template:Tailoring Craftables]] and [[Template:Tinkering Craftables]]. I'm thinking of editing the tables so that the skill requirements can be aligned to the right of the craftable name. Since the format of the tables on these pages are perfect in terms of readability (which [[User:Bomb Bloke]] created), I dont want to change it to uoguidetable or wikitable and I want to preserve the current format. But the code of the current format is very complicated to add new items or skill requirements especially for users who are not familiar with html or any other web editing language. Since most users know how to edit contents of the tables in uoguidetable style, I'm thinking of adding another class, say uoguidecraftabletable in Common.css to change the code of these pages to a more compact one without touching the current format of the tables (borders, colors etc.). I do know how to do it but wanted take your opinion on this. [[User:Nimuaq\|Nimuaq]] 11:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
		+	: To be honest, I've been thinking about the craftable templates for some time. I cordoned them off to be worked on after I did all of those navbox templates, but I have been putting it off.{{Line Break}}The problem with these templates is that every single one of them is only used in two places; their associated craft skill page, and [[Craftables]]. In other words, they shouldn't even really ''be'' templates at all. I was thinking of redoing [[Craftables]] to be more like, say, [[Five on Friday]]: general description at the top of the page followed by a properly compartmentalized list consisting purely of links. There would be a "See: ''Insert Craft Skill Page Here''" at the top of each main section. We could then re-implement all of these templates as stand-alone tables on each craft skill page in the same style as [[Template:Inscription Craftables]] (multiple columns of quick reference info).{{Line Break}}The idea here is that if a user wants to see information like "Minimum Skill" or "Components," they should be going to either a.) the specific craftable item's page or b.) the associated craft skill for quick reference. [[Craftables]] itself should just have a standard list of links that points at the information you need instead of unnecessarily duplicating that information in yet another place.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 18:13, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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	== Editing Craftable Template Pages ==		== Editing Craftable Template Pages ==

−	Recently, [[User:~~Dwlii~~]] started to add skill requirements on the craftable tables of the pages: [[Template:Carpentry Craftables]], [[Template:Cooking Craftables]], [[Template:Masonry Craftables]], [[Template:Tailoring Craftables]] and [[Template:Tinkering Craftables]]. I'm thinking of editing the tables so that the skill requirements can be aligned to the right of the craftable name. Since the format of the tables on these pages are perfect in terms of readability (which [[User:Bomb Bloke]] created), I dont want to change it to uoguidetable or wikitable and I want to preserve the current format. But the code of the current format is very complicated to add new items or skill requirements especially for users who are not familiar with html or any other web editing language. Since most users know how to edit contents of the tables in uoguidetable style, I'm thinking of adding another class, say uoguidecraftabletable in Common.css to change the code of these pages to a more compact one without touching the current format of the tables (borders, colors etc.). I do know how to do it but wanted take your opinion on this. [[User:Nimuaq\|Nimuaq]] 11:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)	+	Recently, [[User:Dlwiii]] started to add skill requirements on the craftable tables of the pages: [[Template:Carpentry Craftables]], [[Template:Cooking Craftables]], [[Template:Masonry Craftables]], [[Template:Tailoring Craftables]] and [[Template:Tinkering Craftables]]. I'm thinking of editing the tables so that the skill requirements can be aligned to the right of the craftable name. Since the format of the tables on these pages are perfect in terms of readability (which [[User:Bomb Bloke]] created), I dont want to change it to uoguidetable or wikitable and I want to preserve the current format. But the code of the current format is very complicated to add new items or skill requirements especially for users who are not familiar with html or any other web editing language. Since most users know how to edit contents of the tables in uoguidetable style, I'm thinking of adding another class, say uoguidecraftabletable in Common.css to change the code of these pages to a more compact one without touching the current format of the tables (borders, colors etc.). I do know how to do it but wanted take your opinion on this. [[User:Nimuaq\|Nimuaq]] 11:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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	: The main page gets its content from a variety of template pages. If you click edit on the Main Page and look near the bottom, all of the templates are listed. You are probably looking for [[Template:Featured Content]] and [[Template:UO News]].{{Line Break}}- [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 08:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)		: The main page gets its content from a variety of template pages. If you click edit on the Main Page and look near the bottom, all of the templates are listed. You are probably looking for [[Template:Featured Content]] and [[Template:UO News]].{{Line Break}}- [[User:JC the Builder\|JC the Builder]] 08:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
	: I added a link to the first part of the quest chain and a byline to [[Template:Featured Content]]. You can flex your new sysop powers by adding something to [[Template:UO News]] whenever you pass through again.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 21:21, 7 April 2010 (UTC)		: I added a link to the first part of the quest chain and a byline to [[Template:Featured Content]]. You can flex your new sysop powers by adding something to [[Template:UO News]] whenever you pass through again.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac\|Cogniac]] 21:21, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Editing Craftable Template Pages ==
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		+	Recently, [[User:Dwlii]] started to add skill requirements on the craftable tables of the pages: [[Template:Carpentry Craftables]], [[Template:Cooking Craftables]], [[Template:Masonry Craftables]], [[Template:Tailoring Craftables]] and [[Template:Tinkering Craftables]]. I'm thinking of editing the tables so that the skill requirements can be aligned to the right of the craftable name. Since the format of the tables on these pages are perfect in terms of readability (which [[User:Bomb Bloke]] created), I dont want to change it to uoguidetable or wikitable and I want to preserve the current format. But the code of the current format is very complicated to add new items or skill requirements especially for users who are not familiar with html or any other web editing language. Since most users know how to edit contents of the tables in uoguidetable style, I'm thinking of adding another class, say uoguidecraftabletable in Common.css to change the code of these pages to a more compact one without touching the current format of the tables (borders, colors etc.). I do know how to do it but wanted take your opinion on this. [[User:Nimuaq\|Nimuaq]] 11:57, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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 :::: Personally, I would vote for just re-filing them under the pre-existing sections, as you suggested.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac|Cogniac]] 15:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
-== Explorers of the Stygian Abyss Event ==
+==Explorers of the Stygian Abyss Event==
+I added the Human/Elf parts of the quests for this event but couldnt figured out how to add them to the main page. The quest pages are: [[Ranger of the Abyss Part 1: A Light in the Darkness‎]] and [[Ranger of the Abyss Part 2: Seeds of Virtue‎]] with all the relevant page links. Can you help me out?{{Line Break}}-[[User:Nimuaq|Nimuaq]] 05:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
-I added the Human/Elf parts of the quests for this event but couldnt figured out how to add them to the main page. The quest pages are: [[Ranger of the Abyss Part 1: A Light in the Darkness‎]] and [[Ranger of the Abyss Part 2: Seeds of Virtue‎]] with all the relevant page links. Can you help me out? [[User:Nimuaq|Nimuaq]] 05:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
+: The main page gets its content from a variety of template pages. If you click edit on the Main Page and look near the bottom, all of the templates are listed. You are probably looking for [[Template:Featured Content]] and [[Template:UO News]].{{Line Break}}- [[User:JC the Builder|JC the Builder]] 08:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
-: The main page gets its content from a variety of template pages. If you click edit on the Main Page and look near the bottom, all of the templates are listed. You are probably looking for [[Template:Featured Content]] and [[Template:UO News]]. - [[User:JC the Builder|JC the Builder]] 08:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
+: I added a link to the first part of the quest chain and a byline to [[Template:Featured Content]]. You can flex your new sysop powers by adding something to [[Template:UO News]] whenever you pass through again.{{Line Break}}--[[User:Cogniac|Cogniac]] 21:21, 7 April 2010 (UTC)