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The '''Satyr Trick''' is similar to the Golem trick (see Method 2 of [[Melee Training Guide]]) for warriors and could be considered a cheat, I haven't seen anything from EA that says so and its been around for a while without a patch fixing it; so based on these two points I don't see any harm in explaining it
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The '''Satyr Trick''' is similar to the Golem trick (see Method 2 of [[Melee Training Guide]]) for warriors and could be considered a cheat. However, EA has not stated that this trick is a cheat and has been around for a while without being patched.
  
The Satyr trick makes use of the [[Satyr]]'s [[Discordance]] ability to lower you [[skill]]s and therefore make skill training easier / cheaper / quicker because you are training at a lower skill level, for example if you are on 90 [[Alchemy]] and get discorded by a satyr then your skill level will reduce to around 60 skill; it can be used to train any skill that you can train while mobile but this will become clearer as i go on
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The Satyr trick makes use of the [[Satyr]]'s [[Discordance]] ability to lower your [[skill]]s and therefore make skill training easier, cheaper, and quicker because you are training at a lower skill level. For example if you are on 90 [[Alchemy]] and get discorded by a satyr then your skill level will reduce to around 60 skill; it can be used to train any skill that you can train while mobile but this will become more clear later in this article.
  
 
==Setup==
 
==Setup==
* You need to be able to access [[Twisted Weald]] to do this you need to either be on, or have completed, the [[Lorekeeper Calendor the Keeper of Tradition]] who is located in elfin city of [[Heartwood]], even young chars can start this quest without any problems
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* You need to be able to access [[Twisted Weald]] to do this and you need to either be on, or have completed, the [[Lorekeeper Calendor the Keeper of Tradition]] who is located in the city of [[Heartwood]]. Young characters can start this quest without any problems.
* A pack animal of some kind, I usually tell mine to stay at the entrance so you can pick it up easily once you are discoed; load it up with regs or whatever your skill requires and have it follow you around
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* A pack animal, loaded with supplies, of some kind is required. It can be helpful to command the pack animal to stay at the entrance so that it can be picked up easily once you have been discorded.
  
 
==Recommendations==
 
==Recommendations==
* While this is not essential I've found that the [[Virtue Armor Set]] is a great set of armor for training new characters in any skill
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* While not essential, the [[Virtue Armor Set]] is a great set of armor for training new characters in any skill.
* The [[Pixie Swatter]] is a great weapon to have with you
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* The [[Pixie Swatter]] is useful.
* Some weapon skill or capability to invis is also useful
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* Some weapon skill or capability to become invisible is useful.
  
 
==The Trick==
 
==The Trick==
* Go into Twisted Weald, find a satyr and pull up its gump
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* Go into Twisted Weald and find a satyr, or despise trammel and find a Satyr and train it to level 10.
* Attack it by double clicking its gump in war mode and it will try discoing you  
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* Attack it by double clicking its gump in war mode and it will attempt to use discordance on you.
* Let it follow you around until you are discoed (you will know this because you will see all of your skills drop)
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* Let it follow you around until you have been discorded. You will know this because you will see all of your skills drop.
* Then quickly get through the moongate to leave Twisted Weald
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* Then quickly get through the moongate to leave Twisted Weald or invis then show.
* When attacking it I recommend you get to the exit as quickly as possible as it will try and provoke other creatures in the area onto you, and trust me with lowered skills you definitely don't want a CU attacking you, even a pixie can be hard to kill if your young; if they do target you you must either kill them or leave the server and come back
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* When attacking it I recommend you get to the exit as quickly as possible as it will try to provoke other creatures in the area onto you. With lowered skills you definitely don't want a [[Cu Sidhe]] attacking you; even a [[Pixie]] can be hard to kill if you're young. If they ''do'' target you, they must either be killed or you must leave the server and come back.
* Once you leave via the moongate the satry will loose interest in attacking you (but you are still discoed) and you can re-enter without fear of it attacking you; this will NOT however stop critters that may have been provoked onto you from attacking you, this is where an invis spell or a pixie swatter and weapon skill comes in handy
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* Once you invis the satyr will loose interest in attacking you. However, you are still discorded and you can re-enter without fear of it attacking you; this will NOT however stop critters that may have been provoked onto you from attacking you. This is when an invisibility spell or a pixie swatter with weapon skill comes in handy.
* Now as long as you stay close to the satyr you will stay discoed until it respawns, making use of alt-left click to follow the satry around is a good idea
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* Now as long as you stay close to the satyr you will stay discorded until it respawns. Making use of the Alt-Left Click combination to follow the satry around is helpful.
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* If you use the Despise option, pick according to your level the Satyr with the best fitting skilllevel in Disco. The level goes from 90 to 133 and depending on the skill is the lowering of your skill. I use a tamer to find the "best to train" Satyr.
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It takes a while to get the hang of it and may several tries before getting it down.
  
It takes a while to get the hang of it and you may have to do it a few times before you get it down
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Unlike other debuffs, no icon indicator will appear in the buff/debuff gump while a character is Discorded.
  
 
==Skill training==
 
==Skill training==
The following skills can be trained using this method:
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Most popular skills to train using this method:
* [[Poisoning]]
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* [[Poisoning]] - Warning, this skill lowers Karma so careful not to get too low otherwise the critters in Twisted Weald will attack you!
 
* [[Alchemy]]
 
* [[Alchemy]]
 
* [[Bowcraft & Fletching]]
 
* [[Bowcraft & Fletching]]
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* [[Tinkering]]
 
* [[Tinkering]]
 
* [[Chivalry]]
 
* [[Chivalry]]
* [[Evaluating Intelligence]]
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* [[Lockpicking]] - Warning, this skill lowers Karma so careful not to get too low otherwise the critters in Twisted Weald will attack you!
* [[Magery]]
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* [[Meditation]]
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* [[Necromancy]]
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* [[Spellweaving]]
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* [[Spirit Speak]]
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* [[Lockpicking]]
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Note: In theory it is possible to combine the Golem Trick and this together to enable you to work on warrior skills however I've found it easier and more fun to work warrior skills the traditional way
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Note: In theory it is possible to combine the Golem Trick and this together to enable you to work on warrior skills.
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==References==
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* [http://stratics.com/threads/satyr-trick-fixed-or-me-just-being-dumb.325406/ Stratics Discussion Confirmining Still Works as of November 2014]

Latest revision as of 02:55, 5 October 2019

The Satyr Trick is similar to the Golem trick (see Method 2 of Melee Training Guide) for warriors and could be considered a cheat. However, EA has not stated that this trick is a cheat and has been around for a while without being patched.

The Satyr trick makes use of the Satyr's Discordance ability to lower your skills and therefore make skill training easier, cheaper, and quicker because you are training at a lower skill level. For example if you are on 90 Alchemy and get discorded by a satyr then your skill level will reduce to around 60 skill; it can be used to train any skill that you can train while mobile but this will become more clear later in this article.

Setup

  • You need to be able to access Twisted Weald to do this and you need to either be on, or have completed, the Lorekeeper Calendor the Keeper of Tradition who is located in the city of Heartwood. Young characters can start this quest without any problems.
  • A pack animal, loaded with supplies, of some kind is required. It can be helpful to command the pack animal to stay at the entrance so that it can be picked up easily once you have been discorded.

Recommendations

  • While not essential, the Virtue Armor Set is a great set of armor for training new characters in any skill.
  • The Pixie Swatter is useful.
  • Some weapon skill or capability to become invisible is useful.

The Trick

  • Go into Twisted Weald and find a satyr, or despise trammel and find a Satyr and train it to level 10.
  • Attack it by double clicking its gump in war mode and it will attempt to use discordance on you.
  • Let it follow you around until you have been discorded. You will know this because you will see all of your skills drop.
  • Then quickly get through the moongate to leave Twisted Weald or invis then show.
  • When attacking it I recommend you get to the exit as quickly as possible as it will try to provoke other creatures in the area onto you. With lowered skills you definitely don't want a Cu Sidhe attacking you; even a Pixie can be hard to kill if you're young. If they do target you, they must either be killed or you must leave the server and come back.
  • Once you invis the satyr will loose interest in attacking you. However, you are still discorded and you can re-enter without fear of it attacking you; this will NOT however stop critters that may have been provoked onto you from attacking you. This is when an invisibility spell or a pixie swatter with weapon skill comes in handy.
  • Now as long as you stay close to the satyr you will stay discorded until it respawns. Making use of the Alt-Left Click combination to follow the satry around is helpful.
  • If you use the Despise option, pick according to your level the Satyr with the best fitting skilllevel in Disco. The level goes from 90 to 133 and depending on the skill is the lowering of your skill. I use a tamer to find the "best to train" Satyr.

It takes a while to get the hang of it and may several tries before getting it down.

Unlike other debuffs, no icon indicator will appear in the buff/debuff gump while a character is Discorded.

Skill training

Most popular skills to train using this method:

Note: In theory it is possible to combine the Golem Trick and this together to enable you to work on warrior skills.

References